Even more marine corps boot camp brutality EXPOSED!: DI punched me in the stomach because i .................

accidently had alittle shoe polish on my belt buckle. DI told squad leaders to give a recruit a blanket party, the recruit ended up with a few broken ribs.one recruits mother mailed him some cookies and the DI made him eat it all in one sitting and the recruit couldnt eat it all and the DI shoved it down his throat, please tell me, getting food shoved down your throat prepares u for the battle field?? i went in the gas chamber, i done the procedures required in the gas chamber, and the DI told me to "stay awhile". anohter recruit paniced in the gas chamber, he passed out, was carried out of the gas chamber, and once he awaken, he was told to go back inside and get his weapon he dropped, with NO gas mask on. i never read this in articles, i been to MCRD san diego myself 26 years ago and witnessed all of this. i done good enough in boot camp to make honorary PFC upon completion of basic training. i aplaud the USMC in many things but some of their training tactics is simply abusive

Even more marine corps boot camp brutality EXPOSED!: DI punched me in the stomach because i .................
I think you live in a dream world. They don't make anyone honorary anything. It's called meritorious promotion. And the only people who get meritorious promotions in boot camp are the platoon guides. Why did you have shoe polish on your belt buckle anyway? Marines are very meticulous about their uniform appearance so if you were stupid enough to get boot polish on your belt, you obviously didn't take pride. Maybe the DI pushing you in the stomach was the only way to get the point across. As far as we know, he could've tried a million other ways and you didn't pay attention. You say all this happened 26 years ago? How can you compare that to now? You don't need to be posting this crap on Yahoo, you obviously need to be saying it on a psychologist's couch.
Reply:You are such a P%26gt;U%26gt;S%26gt;S%26gt;Y... you post here EVERYDAY crying about boot camp. Jeez, get a life.





The amercan way- always try to blame someone else.





By the way: You have exposed nothing except your lack of spine. Go into your little corner and cry a while.





READ the answer ABOVE: You tell 'em Master Gunny. S/F
Reply:I have been in the military for a while now and I have seen some things that would make your head spin, but stories like this makes me wounder if this actually happened or if it is just some schmuck trying to get his 15 minutes of shame.
Reply:What do you think would happen if you had been captured and become a POW. If you prepare for the worse, it will be that much less of a shock when it does happen. It's no secret that the Marine Corps is tough.





Semper Fi
Reply:I doubt you were ever even in the military let alone my Corps. A DI isn't allowed to strike a recruit (they will put their fingers up alongside your head - anyone who's ever been to boot camp knows this). Boot Camp is a mind freak...it's meant to be that way to prepare you for the stresses of battle. All the stories you share (outside of the "blanket party" %26amp; the 'punching' in the stomach) are perfectly acceptable and a very valuable means of training. Once again, if you'd ever been to boot camp you'd realize this.





Oh BTW, in your second to last line you refer it as basic training...a term that is used in the Army not the USMC...we call it boot camp...always have...always will...
Reply:I joined the Corps in 1968 and that type of stuff did go on back then. When my son joined a few years ago in was one of my big concerns. After talking to his recruiter (an ex DI ) and going down to my sons graduation and getting a tour of the training facilities it just does not happen anymore
Reply:you bleed in training, so you dont die in combat
Reply:Are you whining about boot camp's persuasive tactics from26 years ago? You should have been there 50 years ago, that's when they separated the boys from the men, and that was just in the first week. What is the point of your belated revelations? to show how barbaric DI's really are, or how big a hero you are for surviving?





The PFC thing has lost it's luster too. Today they issue the rank for any recruit who delivers a name of another perspective recruit who the Marine Corps is successful in signing up.





I take it your MOS wasn't in administration!
Reply:I'm retired military and I believe only what I see. Kids going into the military these days learn to stretch the truth so much theses days I would take anything like you've mentioned with a grain of salt and forget it. They write their Congressman these days if they are just told to take off their cap. Seeing is believing.
Reply:I went through Boot Camp at San Diego in 1940, and it was tough, and I was hit by my DI, and I suffered other misfortunes, and am very proud of it all. I liked my DI's and saw them after Boot Camp, and we shared funny stories about it all.
Reply:Dude, you know damn good and well what you signed up for. The Marines are the best fighting force on the planet. They didn't get that way by having tea parties with recruits in basic.
Reply:I'm not sure what your picture of the military was before you joined. What did you think trained killers were going to be like? Not exactly sensitive and caring.





Cruelty and sadism go with the culture. I could go on and on about enlisted soldiers and their stories of the twisted hazing visited on them by others and later by them to others. Afraid you're living in an S%26amp;M world. Just read some of these other posts. "Brutality, ha! We love brutality. That's nothing, they should have been more brutal."
Reply:There is a fine line between "tough enough to take it" and systematic bullying. In a war enviroment and an order is given, the soldier has to carry out that order.Training is to prepare that soldier to be a killing machine and part of a tough team but it does give some people the position to abuse and enjoy their power over others.Recently at Deepcut barracks in UK, four soldiers were found to be shot in the head. All were classified as suicides despite evidence to the contrary.
Reply:DIs are absolutely not allowed to touch a recruit because


they will be relieved of their duties ASAP!!!
Reply:My son leaves today for San Diego. Thanks for letting me have more to worry about. I come from a large military family %26amp; I can pretty much gaurentee you, sir, that what happens in training is not nearly as bad as what would happen if caught by the enemy. Have to learn to be tough under all circumstances. Marines are always the first in......thanks for the support
Reply:26 year old Sea-Stories are NOT an "EXPOSE`" .





Today's military (all branches) are FAR different in the behavior of the Drill Instructors/Company Commanders/Recruit Trainers... one can't strike a recruit, instructors can't curse, and recruits CAN ask for the "training time-out".





By-The-Way... the "training-time-out" is a direct result of the death of a student at the US Navy's Rescue Swimmer School in 1987. Two classes behind me.
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